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Once Saved Forever Saved. by Choice (f): 8:37pm on January 6
Choice Kenneth
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This is a doctrine that explains that no matter what a believer does, he can not lose his salvation.
I understand that many people believe in this Once Saved For Saved doctrine for whatever reason but I will implore everyone of us to be very much humble to hear what the Lord is saying.
I did not write this to argue for or against the doctrine but by the Spirit of God and His help, will like to make us understand some things.
It is funny that the Bible is the basis for all of these doctrines. They have their conviction from the Bible but don't forget that many use the Bible for their own destruction and out of pride and lust.
Many questions that got raised are, "how would you be saved yet live anyhow? If you're saved, does it mean you can't sin? If one is saved, why would one lose the salvation? Can one lose his or her salvation?" Let's analyse all of these together as the Lord Helps us. Amen
I will advise us to read to the end and trust the Holy Spirit to help us.
SANCTIFICATION —The Bible teaches that without holiness no man can see the Lord. We believe in the Doctrine of Sanctification as a definite, yet progressive work of grace, commencing at the time of regeneration and continuing until the consummation of salvation at Christ’s return (Heb. 12:14; 1 Thess. 5:23; 2 Peter 3:18; 2 Cor. 3:18; Phil. 3:12–14; 1 Cor. 1:30).

[ What We Believe . (Copyright © 2016 Kenneth Hagin Ministries. www.rhema.org )]
The teaching would have been correct if directed to those who have been in Christ and remain. Should anyone depart from Christ whether in words or in living, such a person would lose the salvation if he or she doesn't repent. _Let's take this as an assumption unto we get to the end._
Jude 1:1-5
Jude spoke about people who decided to turn the grace of God into lasciviousness. These clearly talks about the teachers and those who believe in these hypergrace or Once Saved Forever Saved doctrine. We saw how that God saved the children of Israel (Christians) from Egypt( Sin) and yet destroyed them that believed not (those who didn't work out the salvation). The complete work of Christ is done at the cross and until everyone gets crucified with Christ, such a person is not of His. This means a call for total surrender and following Christ. You can not claim to be saved and still be living your formal life or be living as the world lives.
The Grace of God is not a licence to sin but rather a path to righteousness and holiness. Anyone who dwells in sin reproaches the grace of God. (Titus 2:11-12)
In Revelations 2:4-5, Jesus was referring to the problem of the church and asked them to remember their first love and repent or else they will be removed out of place? Can this mean they will lose their salvation?
The question then should be what exactly is salvation?

Salvation simply means be saved. Does being born again means being saved? Not at all. Being born again is the beginning of the journey of salvation that Jesus set. Jesus had completed the salvation journey and everyone must work it out!
Salvation is the translation from darkness to light which happens in three phases and also of three modes.

The first phase is Justification which was what Jesus did for us on the cross and by so doing, Jesus had justified us and forgive us of all sins. Justification is being saved from the guilt of sin (Eph 2:cool. The Second phase is Sanctification. Sanctification is the working out. This means one should walk in holiness and righteousness and in the perfect will of God. If there's no need for sanctification, the Bible would not have referred to it. Sanctification is the process of being saved from the power of sin (Rom 12:2, please refer as well to the aforementioned scriptures). The last is glorification. This is the moment of the end of our faith, the salvation of our souls (1Pet 1:9). Glorification is the moment everyone will become like Christ and will forever be with God. A believer will be saved completely from sin. (Acts 15:11)
The journey unto perfection/glorification is the journey of faith in grace.

The modes of Salvation occurs in the Spirit, Soul and body.(1The 5:23).
The Salvation of the Spirit Occurs when one surrenders totally to Christ i.e become born again (Jn 3:3) while Salvation of the Soul is a continuous process that occurs by the renewal of mind and through discipleship (Jn 3:5, Rom 12:1-2, Matt 11:28-30) and the salvation of the body occurs by yielding to the Spirit.(Rom 8:4-5, Gal 5:16).
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Re: The Error; Once Saved Forever Saved by Hardeysolution(m): 7:20pm
In 1Cor 9:27, Paul expressed a necessity to have his body under control and subjected lest he becomes a castaway. Does this not strike show what Christ was saying in Matt 7:21-23?
Then why do these preachers of eternal security declare that what anyone does with his body doesn't matter? In Gal 5:19-21, we saw the works of the flesh and we should understand even as Paul said, that anyone who works in such wouldn't inherit the kingdom of God! Can someone who doesn't inherit the kingdom have eternal life?
Jesus had come to put to death the sin in the flesh (Rom 8:2-4) and also, we should walk in grace in the Spirit of God and that is the definition of walking in victory. Can you continue in sin and call for grace? Never! The death to sin is walking in the Spirit (Rom 6:1-2).

Then, does it mean one can not fall into sin as a believer? If one sins, we have Jesus who is there to always intercede for us. That is why Sanctification is a gradual process. There is need for renewal of the soul. That was why Paul could say "i die daily!" despite being dead. There is need to understand that Jesus is always with us to overcome the sinful nature in the soul which is done by the word and Spirit of God.
The flesh left an imprint in the soul before one met Christ. After meeting Christ, one should not work after these imprints but to consciously by the Spirit of God remove the imprints which is always painful. This is because we are dead. (We die daily because we are dead). We do not sin, because we are dead. (Gal 2:20, Col 3:1-10).
Many people have decided to manipulate the Bible to suit themselves. The Bible is clear enough and the stance of God is made known (2Tim 2:19). Every righteousness is a sin/iniquity.

Many deny Jesus the way they live their lives (Titus 1:16a, 2Tim 2:12b). Everyone neee to follow Jesus Christ. Following Jesus is the process of discipleship and sanctification.
In Matt 7:21-23, Jesus was referring to the Christians as against some beliefs. He was referring to the chosen that later did fall out of grace. No one can cast out demons and do good works except Christ chose him (Mk. 9:39-40). This clearly meant that the workers of iniquities are the Christians but Alas! They didn't enter into eternal rest. Does this mean they lost their salvation?
In Matt 10:22b, Jesus clearly stated that He that endures to the end shall be saved? What salvation? What endurance? The endurance is the process of discipleship and sanctification where Christ sit upon us to refine us and this salvation is the glorification. Does this strike a balance?
Some argued that Jesus said these things before going to the cross. Should we for this reason rule out all other words of Christ? Did we forget that He sent the Helper to remind us of all He taught?
They as well argued that Jesus had died for all our sins even the future sins. Then the Apostles shouldn't have mentioned at all the essence of rightful living if Jesus died for future sins. This shouldn't be misunderstood. Jesus died for all sins but anyone who doesn't confess his sins and ask for forgiveness still is in his sins (1Jn 1:9). John wrote to Christians and not unbelievers. These clearly means anyone who doesn't seek forgiveness remains in his sins.
Paul even admonished us all to take heed lest we fall (1Cor 10:12).
In Matt 22:2-13, the parable clearly shows the process of our salvation. It clearly shows that one can end up in outer darkness if one doesn't wear the garment of God's Holiness and righteousnes. Anyone who wears it must accept Christ and walk as one who is heavenly to avoid stains amd wrinkles. Anyone who doesn't have the garment on will end in outer darkness


This journey is on going and one must fight it to the end. It would be surprising why Jesus was hammering on "He that overcomes" in the letters to the Churches.
Therefore, we must all continue to fight it as Christ helps us, following Him to the end so that our names won't be blotted out of the book of Life (Rom 3:5).
Everyone must go to the cross and die and even daily though dead (Please understand).
Jesus warned us to bear of false teachers of grace that we have now. (Matt 24:24-26).
I will advise that however, don't believe in your works rather the finished work of Christ i.e dont be self-righteous.
Assurance of Salvation shouldn't be mistaken for Eternal security
Our salvation is assured as long as we remain in Christ in all truth.
_Gal 6:7-8, Rom 8:1-6, James 4:6-7, 2Pet 2:1, Heb 3:12, 1Cor 9:27, James 5:19-20_


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